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Trivia

• Attendees: Tom, Louis, Jannis, Maddin, Fabio, Can, Henrik, Benny, Philipp, Leon, Niklas, Svea, Sina, Guests: Freddy, Lilly, Hauke, Jonas, Jens
• Quorum: 13/14 #t
• Transcript Writer: Louis
• Date: 20.11.2024
• Begin: 19:05 (Nach hinten verschoben wegen Neu-Orga Treffen der OE)
• End: 20:14
• Location: G-134/Discord

TOPs

• Political messages on the Mafiasi Dashboard
• Political stance of the FSR
• Mark furniture for moving
• Past week
• Winter seminar planning
• BaStL-meeting
• Other

Postponed:

• AG fair
• FSR Informiert English version
• Drink prices
• Update: connecting with other STEM faculties
• Funding for AGs (stundent clubs)
• Spam in the Wiki
• Which emails are forwarded

Political messages on the Mafiasi Dashboard

• The Server AG wanted to add a small toast with political messages on the Mafiasi Dashboard; this pull request was stopped by Tom
• The FSR decided in the last meeting to avoid making political statements wherever possible
• Certain messages are particularly troubling to us
• Tom consulted the HoPo department: It is generally acceptable for the FSR to take political positions. However, they should focus on specific statements or actions rather than criticising parties or individuals
• The Server AG is okay with modifying individual messages.
• Freddy says that it is not sensible for the FSR to remain entirely apolitical, as this would prevent support for causes like TV-Stud
• Additionally the FSR Informatik has previously taken political action on several occasions
• Tom says that intrusive political messages don't belong on a neutral dashboard page; such decisions should be made in a general assembly of the faculty
• On the other hand, the toast was made to not be intentionally intrusive
• Lilly believes it is important to use available spaces to clearly show the faculty's values. Failing to oppose far-right positions essentially condones them
• Maddin says Mafiasi should not exclude anyone. Lilly responds that the messages do not exclude anyone from using Mafiasi
• Hauke says the faculty is inherently political and can take positions. However, such positions should represent the whole faculty, rather than being prominently displayed on Mafiasi by a few individuals
• Tom sees this as a misuse of Mafiasi, advocating that such issues should be decided in a general assembly
• Philipp notes that less popular views could also be promoted by individuals, suggesting community guidelines for this
• Lilly counters that, aside from the Wiki, Mafiasi does not have much user-generated content. Only confirmed members of the Server AG can post content outside the Wiki
• Freddy proposes discussing political values in a future general assembly to establish a faculty position. This decision could include how such positions are displayed
• Jonas argues Mafiasi should remain a neutral platform without political messages, suggesting these could go on subpages instead
• Freddy counters that, despite this, it would still make sense through a joint decision by the student council. Additionally, such an action loses its impact if it is not sufficiently visible.
• Tom suggests continuing the discussion in the general assembly.
• Freddy warns against appearing apolitical, as this may prevent support for meaningful actions
• Can emphasises the importance of a clear stance against far-right ideologies while keeping the dashboard neutral
• Freddy notes that a clear political alignment can make the FSR approachable for discrimination cases
• Sina adds that international students often don’t know they can contact the FSR with issues
• Philipp says that the last meeting's discussion might not have been fully conveyed in the brief notes.
• Lilly proposes a compromise: instead of freezing the issue until the next general assembly, a more neutral, less loaded statement could be displayed on the Mafiasi Dashboard, referring to the FSR and the university's anti-discrimination office
• Freddy supports this and suggests creating a working group to address discrimination issues among (international) students
• Lilly will prepare an implementation of her proposal and reach out again.
• We will continue discussing this next week.

Political stance of the FSR

• The FSR will criticise individual actions and positions rather than broadly opposing the BAE group.
• Freddy warns that any collaboration with BAE can be very risky.
• Several student councils were dominated by BAE for years, leading to blocked resources (finances, rooms) for affected faculties.
• Our FSR once had a BAE member who was unwilling to step down voluntarily.
• While not everything BAE does is bad, Freddy urges caution as they can create significant trouble.
• Tom suggests a "BAE History Lesson" to inform new FSR members about the group.
• It is also important to share this knowledge with the faculty.
• Hauke notes that BAE will be closer geographically after the move to the new Ikum building.
• Jonas proposes a formal incompatibility resolution to simplify rejecting BAE involvement.
• Freddy warns against direct conflict, as BAE employs exhausting tactics.
• Freddy reiterates that the issue is less about BAE's political stance and more about their extreme methods.
• General recommendation from Tom: Research BAE and read experiences to gain insight.
• We thank Freddy for his input and would be happy if he could join the history lesson.

Marking furniture for the move

• Tom provides an update on the move. The clearing date is late January, so furniture for disposal should be marked now
• Can points out that the FSR has been barely involved in the planning and suggests pushing for more involvement. Meetings have not included us so far.
• Tom has sent a relevant email today, hoping for inclusion in future planning meetings.
• There’s hope we might get rooms at the MIN Forum.
• Legally, the faculty is entitled to rooms, and two are insufficient.
• While aware of the room shortage, we must push for more.
• Jonas asks if there is a room concept for student AGs (e.g., Bit-Bots). It seems unlikely.

Past week

• Meeting time remains Wednesday at 18:00
• Ikum-LAN AG received €50 for snacks
• Drinks have been ordered
• Tom completed the FSR poster.
• A second mulled wine dispenser was approved; Tom will handle it.
• Tom is working on a new lock for G-134.
• FSR Informiert promotion via Community Announcements is in progress.
• Leon drafted rules for refrigerator use; we will vote on them in the group chat.
• Numerous emails were answered.
• An email detailing active AGs in the faculty has been drafted but has not yet been sent.
• Philipp added a new rule to the Wiki requiring new AGs to draft a short introduction for the Wiki.

Winter seminar planning

• Invitation drafted; RFC pending
• Drink and food options have been optimised
• Prices still need to be set
• The token system will be used again. Requiring cards that will cost €30-40.
  • Approved unanimously.
• Helper email coming soon
• Karaoke-AG was contacted about organising karaoke
• A contact grill for sandwiches will be purchased (€30-40)
  • Approved unanimously.

BaStL-meeting

• We aim to hold a BaStL meeting before Christmas
• Tom will create a bit-poll

Other

• Future emails will first go through an RFC with a planned send date to fsr-inter@
• FSR Informiert English version
• Promote the kitchen
• Jannis will arrange an advent calendar for the study office